Not Under Bondage (to sin)

This post has the capacity to probably be one of the most misunderstood posts I have made

(up until this point, anyway)

… which says a lot, because apparently, when I encourage people to line up with the Word of God and to interpret Scripture within context (exegesis), some people think that’s being controversial or rude…

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So, considering the events of the past couple of days, there is the strong possibility that unscrupulous people (some of who call themselves “christian”) will want to twist my words, misrepresenting the greater point that I am trying to make. But as I am continually reminded, over and over, that will happen anyway, regardless of what I say, how careful I am in wording it, to whom I say it, and the context in which I say it, because some people are just snakes. So to those people I proactively say with as much kindness as I can muster at this time:

“I have not the time nor the energy to deal with people like you anymore. I know that in the end, God will deal with you, so I leave you in God’s hands, and I will continue on my way, doing what I know God has me to do, regardless of the snakes-in-the grass like you who throw blocks in my path to try to confuse others about what the issues actually are, to try to discredit me, to try to get me off track, to try to discourage me, and to try to shut me up, etc…”

In fact, although the words of this post have been rattling around in my head for several days now, the catalyst for me getting up at the ungodly hour of 5:45 AM this morning to begin putting my thoughts to paper, in a manner of speaking, was a woman by the name of Barbara Roberts — Twitter handle “NotUnderBondage”… which is incredibly ironic, considering what I had already planned for this post to be all about — who has been on what seems to be a campaign to very publicly and deliberately misquote and misrepresent my words over the past few months, in spite of me going directly to her, correcting her words, and asking her to stop. I actually started to write a blog post on October 8th of last year to publicly address her misinformation/misquoting/misrepresentation, but I decided that since I had already publicly addressed her on Twitter and on Facebook, that writing an article about it would just put undue attention on her and the situation. I’ve now changed my mind about that. People like Barbara — Christians like Barbara — honestly make me want to puke… but she isn’t the only one.

So anyhoo…

If you are a Christian who has no idea about dissociative disorders and the issues surrounding such a disorder, and if you are someone who does not care to learn about it, then please navigate yourself away from this page, because this post might be confusing  to you, and possibly even be offensive because of your lack of understanding the topic.

On the other hand, if you don’t understand about dissociative disorders and you are someone who is willing to learn, you might want to start with a different article first, to give you a basic understanding of dissociative disorders: An Overview to Understanding Dissociation and D.I.D. 

That article () might help you better understand where I am coming from in this article.

The Foundation: Freedom From Bondage

Jesus Christ came to set us free from the bondage of sin. To set us free from sin. To give us eternal life. Through God’s plan of salvation given graciously to us through Jesus Christ, by faith we place ourselves under His authority, and we are set free.

Satan places us under bondage. He makes us a slave to sin. His way is eternal death. When we place ourselves under his authority, and when we do things that are of him, we are in bondage to him and a slave to sin.

I believe the average Christians would probably agree with these fairly simplistic statements of our Christian faith.

That said…

My Journey (some of it, anyway)

I can only speak for myself when I talk of my salvation experience, so what I share next may or may not be something that you can relate to.

I was saved when I was two years old.

At that time, however, I was in an Apostolic/UPC church, and I had not been taught a proper (Biblical) view on salvation, but was instead taught about “getting the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues.” So even though at two, I understood about my sinful state, I understood about heaven and hell, and I understood about Jesus and Satan; and even though I believed on Jesus in my heart and I had confessed this with my mouth, I didn’t know that was the essence of receiving salvation. So instead, for two years afterwards, I begged and pleaded and cried out to Jesus to “give me the Holy Ghost.” When, at the age of four, I began speaking in tongues (a day I recall very well), I believed (at that time) that “tongues” was the evidence that I had the Holy Ghost, and I believed at that moment that I was saved and going to heaven, because that was what I had been taught.

Now that I understand what the Bible actually teaches about salvation, however, I realize that I was saved two years prior, when I recognized my sinful state, recognized my need for Jesus, believed that He was my salvation, and confessed this.

But there’s another side to this equation.

One of the reasons why I begged and pleaded to Jesus for two years to “give me the Holy Ghost” was because, even though I could not clearly articulate my emotions and translate them to thought, and from there translate them into spoken words, I had a heart-belief that I was going to hell no matter what I did… that I was predestined for hell… that God had created me from the very beginning to be against Him and to work against Him… that salvation through Jesus Christ was not and is not for me… and that there is nothing that I will ever be able to do to convince God otherwise.

This is one reason why sometimes “I” (certain parts of me) have a very difficult time with the Calvinistic views on predestination, because it speaks to that heart belief that I had as a young child, and it speaks to that belief that parts of me still hold to.

They hold less tightly to it than they used to… but it still haunts me at times. Recently (last week…), “I” (meaning, those parts of me who are fearful of this) came to the decision that even if we are predestined for hell, we’d rather place ourselves in God’s hands and go to hell, than place ourselves in Satan’s hands and go to hell.

I don’t suppose solid Bible-believing Christians would understand this line of reasoning… and I’ve been told by one Calvinist that this line of thinking is “fatalistic”…

(an easy thing for them to say, who believe that God predestined them for heaven…!)

… but there it is.

Now, the times that I do not struggle with this belief of predestination, I just can’t imagine why in the world the issue bothers me so much, because to me (the me writing this article… the me who is out most of the time…), the issue is clear in Scripture: Jesus Christ came to seek and save those who are lost; and if God predestines from the very beginning who will be saved and who will be lost, then what was the point of Christ’s sacrifice?

But try telling me that when I’m a different me… a me who believes that God has created her/me to go to hell, no matter about grace and faith and salvation and Jesus and all that other stuff.

In my opinion, it seems those parts of me think Scripture applies to everyone else except them.

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Last week when all this turmoil came to the surface… again… I finally asked myselves, “Are you all holding onto this belief because you are looking for an excuse to not serve God?”

As you might imagine, that question didn’t go over so well…

Apparently, some parts of myselfs think that me pointing them to the Word of God is controversial and rude, too…

Who’d’ve thunk…?

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But in my opinion, it seems to be a valid question, and the answer was in two parts (three if you count my opinion, which is that predestination as taught by those who follow Calvinistic teachings isn’t a proper view on salvation at all…):

1. Those parts of me who are weighed down by guilt and shame and sin and fear said: “No!” And they were upset I would even ask the question, because their belief is rooted in fear, and not in wanting to get away with doing our own thing outside of God’s will.

2. And from the Luciferian parts (who come to the surface now and again… and who I have to constantly and always be placing under submission to God… and who are beginning to finally “get it,” although God knows this has been a horribly long process…!), the answer was something along the lines of: “Maybe, but that’s a trick question.” They weren’t really bothered by the question, except in having to answer it, but it did seem to be a trick question to them, because by their thinking, serving Satan is serving God’s will for our lives… therefore, not serving Satan is going against God’s will.

So there you have it. Ridiculous, if you ask me, but then they finally all came to the conclusion that they’d rather place themselves in God’s hands and go to hell, than place themselves in Satan’s hands and go to hell, and there was peace again. So it ended up being okay, after all, and I didn’t have an internal revolt on my hands like I was afraid I might.

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All that might make sense if you understand where we are coming from; it probably sounds nuts if you don’t.

Oh well. Nuts it is. lol

Anyway…

I didn’t realize, really, until recently (last week…) where this feeling comes from. I suppose I could be wrong, but I think it comes from the early satanic ritual I was forced to participate in when I was around the age of two.

I can’t be certain of the exact age, of course. Perhaps I was closer to three, as I’ve already mentioned in that chapter of our bio… If I was three, then I don’t guess it makes sense about my feelings as a two-year old of all that nasty sin staining and weighing my spirit down. But if I was two, then it makes sense.

(Of course, this feeling was reinforced by the doctrine that was taught at the church I went to, but more influentially, it was reinforced by my mother, particularly during one specific incident that I might talk about later. Talking about it now will just get me off track to the main point of this article.)

The point I’m trying to make (in the round-about way that is normal for me… lol 😅) is that being involved in something that was not of God put me in bondage… even though it wasn’t my fault and even though I had no control over the situation.

And I felt the chains of bondage over my soul, even at that young age. And I asked God to give me the Holy Ghost because I thought that was salvation, and I wanted to feel clean. I wanted to know I was going to heaven. I wanted to live my life for God, and to do what was pleasing to Him. I wanted to make God happy and to have Him smile at me and say, “Well done.”

Well… as you may realize (especially if you’ve read my bio that I have written so far), this “cleaning” process… the process of doing what is pleasing to God… has been quite a long, winding journey…

perhaps one could say “growing in my salvation” has been quite a long, winding journey

… because I went through abuse and programming for many years that complicated everything to the point where I wasn’t even consciously aware that I was serving Satan instead of God.

Some Thoughts I’ve Been Thoughting

(yes, I know the correct word is “thinking”…)

⇒ Question:

Was I then not saved?

Hm.

Well, that’s one of the questions I want to address in this post, because the conversation surrounding this topic is important, I believe.

Like I said in the beginning of this article: I can only speak to my own salvation. I can’t speak to yours.

I do not know your heart.

(I barely understand my own… lol 😅)

I do not know your mental capacity for understanding, or how much that fluctuates from time to time, if you are dissociative.

And if you are dissociative (or even if you are not!), I do not know what you are consciously aware of, and what you are not consciously aware of.

I do not know how far you are in your healing process.

All I know is where I am.

And although I’m not a theologian

(in other words, I don’t have a degree in theology, nor am I well-respected for any theological views that I hold to… or for anything else, for that matter… lol 😅)

I do know what the Bible says about certain things.

And the Bible assures us that if we, as individuals, have received God’s gift of salvation through Jesus Christ by His grace through our faith in Him, then we are saved.

Seems simple, right?

⇒ Questions:

But what about dissociation? What about when we are doing those things, unconsciously, that are against God? Are we still saved? Are just “parts” of us saved? How does this work?

The complications can get pretty sticky, and this is why I like to try my best to get to the root of the issue — to simplify, if you will. Because when things get complicated, it gets confusing, and the answers or solutions are elusive. So I think it’s good to simplify things. I prefer simple.

In discussing or pondering the complications of dissociative disorders, and whether or not you can “be saved” yet still have dissociative parts who “serve Satan,” often people forget about something: the power of God’s grace and the power of His Spirit.

Looking back over my life as a child, I realize that I and parts of me were involved in things that were not of God, all of which contributed to developing a dissociative disorder, such as:

I was sexually abused and I had no control over this as a child.

I was involved in rituals that I had no control over as a child.

I was involved in programming that I had no control over as a child.

I was involved in ungodly assignments that I had no control over as a child.

These things caused me problems as a child, and, naturally, those problems followed me into adulthood, and some of them still linger even now.

(not trying to get ahead of myself, but I want to quickly point out that these problems are things that I am currently, and probably will continually for the rest of my life, confess and repent of as needed, and submit them to the Father, and this is the basic process of healing and deliverance that is based upon the Word of God… but more on that in a moment!)

Now, as a child, sometimes I would become aware of certain things that were going on — assignments in the astral, for instance — and I would make the conscious decision to not do those things: in the case of astral travel, I would just leave the assignment and go back in my body. I hated being involved in those assignments….

But most of the time, I had no choice but to be involved in the ungodly things that were happening around me.

⇒ Question:

So, since I was involved in ungodly things, was I then not saved?

Probably most people (those with a least a smidgen of sympathy) would say, “Of course you were saved! You were a child! It wasn’t your fault! You were forced into those things!”

And I agree.

But, again, the problems the abuses and trauma caused me as a child, followed me into adulthood, and as an adult, I was still involved in things that were not of God, because I didn’t just wake up one day at the “magic” age of 18 (or whatever age…), and “magically” have knowledge and understanding of what I had previously been involved in, and “magically” have the capacity to make the conscious and heart-felt decision — a decision for myself and on behalf of every part of myself — to turn my back on those things. So I continued to be involved in things that were not of God (things that were of Satan, in other words), all the while thinking and believing, for the most part, that I was serving God! And because of dissociation, I was not always consciously aware of them, such as:

I continued to be involved in astral assignments that were not of God.

(as when I was a child, however, when “I” — as the one who is out most of the time — became consciously aware of being in the astral, I would immediately leave, because I didn’t like being involved in that)

I was involved in traveling in the astral to be a part of meetings and other things that were not of God.

(neither is astral travel of God, by the way)

I was consciously involved in what I now recognize as being “christian” witchcraft, but at that time, I didn’t know it was against God… yet it was.

Question:

So was I still saved?

Here’s where perhaps most people (most people who don’t understand about dissociation, that is) would pause.

I don’t blame them. I’ve done plenty of soul-searching myself over this question! I think it’s a valid question, and sometimes I ask myself this question.

But let me reiterate: I can only speak for myself. I can’t speak for anyone else’s salvation.

The past few years, after leaving Bride Ministries, I have since said something to the effect of me not being truly saved until recently, and I believe on one hand that is true. For most of my life, I was very broken and confused and not understanding what I was involved in. I was being pulled in two different directions — God versus Satan — and not understanding why I was struggling between the two. My heart wanted to serve God… yet sometimes I believed I was going to hell anyway. I didn’t fully understand what was happening, and so my salvation seemed elusive.

Now, however, I am certain of my salvation.

(aside from those pesky doubts from the other parts of me that I talked about earlier that creep up sometimes and that we are still working on… lol 😅… Oh how frustrating it can be, being dissociative…. I feel as if there are always certain statements that I’m always needing to qualify, even now, because some parts of me feel certain ways about things, and other parts of me feel other ways about things, and it’s impossible to accommodate every single thought/feeling into one cohesive unit that is capable of being understood … but we’re working on it! 😄)

And I now am learning more about what it means to “work out my salvation”: submitting myself and every part of me to the Spirit of God — cooperating with Him — and to His work within my heart and mind.

Philippians 2:12-13

Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.

(emphasis mine)

But looking back, I do believe that I was saved in the very purest and most simplistic meaning of what salvation is: the grace of God extended to us through Jesus Christ that is received by faith when we believe on Jesus in our heart and confess Him with our mouth.

In other words, if I would have died, I believe I would have gone to be with the Father.

Question:

But how could I have been saved and be working for Satan at the same time?

Because of God’s grace, that’s why.

God’s grace and mercy extends to us, even while we are sinners. And I do believe that, yes, fundamentally I was still saved.

Now, if someone would like to try to argue this point with me, I won’t argue. Perhaps I was not saved. And as I’ve already discussed in this article, parts of me have doubts about this sometimes, too.

Regardless, let’s not stop this line of thinking to argue the point. I want to continue speaking of my salvation.

Question:

Assuming I was still saved, at what point during my life would I have forfeited my salvation were I to have continued working for Satan?

This is a very good question, too, I believe, and it’s something that I can only answer for myself, as it’s a question only you can answer for yourself.

In other words, I am not in a position to be able to correctly judge you, the state of your heart, and the state of your salvation. That is something that you will have to do for yourself. And I hope you do.

But I will tell you about me.

For me, my point came after I had one final breakdown during Duval’s “counseling,” and I quit once and for all. Over the course of several weeks (a few months…?), I was forced to realize the truth of what I had been involved in, not only during my time in “counseling” with Duval, but also throughout my entire life.

(I’ve already explained all of this in several different places throughout my blog, so I won’t rehash.)

The Spirit of God confronted me with my sin, both the conscious sin and what had previously been unconscious.

In other words, I was no longer unconscious of my previous involvement, and God had allowed me to remember enough that I knew I was guilty of being involved in working for Satan. This didn’t mean that I knew everything …

(I still don’t remember everything)

… but I knew enough to know I was guilty.

And so I was forced into a decision: do I serve God, fully and consciously, and allow Him to set me free from the bondage that serving Satan had placed me in? Or do I serve Satan, turn my back on the Father, on Jesus Christ, and on the Spirit of God, and continue to be in bondage … a slave to … that sin?

I made the conscious decision to serve God and to turn my back of serving Satan. I made this decision for myself and on behalf of every part of me, and this was my turning point.

I believe that if I had made the conscious and willful decision at that point to reject God, then I would have forfeited my salvation.

Questions:

What’s the turning point for you? Will you make a conscious decision (right now, if necessary), to turn from the works of darkness and to turn to the Father?

I hope and pray you choose Jesus Christ.

And if you are dissociative, understand that when you make this decision to choose Jesus Christ, it is on behalf of every part of you. And if you allow the Spirit of God to work within you, He will begin to bring healing to every part of you, causing all of you to come into alignment with His Word and with His perfect will for your life. He will bring to completion the salvation that He begins within you. All you have to do is consciously allow Him to do this (submit to Him…cooperate with Him).

It takes time.

Sometimes it may take a lot of time… an entire lifetime, even!

And that’s okay! 😊

Because He has promised us that He will do this!

Philippians 2:12-13

Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.

 

I’d like to bring something else important into the equation now.

Questions:

After we make a conscious heart decision to serve God, can we then continue to consciously do things that are against God and expect to not suffer consequences from those actions, because “we are saved”? Can we do those things that are against God and not suffer from being bondage any longer, because “we are saved”?

For example:

Can we continue to actively seek out activities that are clearly against Scripture, such as yoga and meditation, and expect to not become bound up again by our sin because “we are saved”?

Can we continue to practice a form of “christian witchcraft,” engaging in things that are clearly against Scripture, such as an ungodly spiritual warfare, and expect to suffer no ill effects from our actions because “we are saved”?

A simple exegesis of Scripture taken as a whole answers these questions with a resounding “No!”

When we willfully and purposefully and consciously continue in our sin, we are denying the sufferings of Christ to free us from the bondage of our sin; we are refusing to submit to Christ, to the Father, and to the work of His Spirit within us; and we grieve His Spirit, sometimes to the point where we again become enslaved by sin.

Romans 6:1-14 is one place that speaks to this, and I hope you can go read the entire passage, but for the sake of trying to keep things very simple and easy-to-read, I want to highlight a few verses from that larger passage (emphasis mine):

What then shall we say? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin live in it any longer?

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its desires. Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.

For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

Obviously, none of us are perfect, whether or not we are dissociative. We all make mistakes, and sometimes we choose to do something that is against God and against His Word. And sometimes, we fall back into the bondage of sin, regardless of whether or not we are plagued by different parts of us who struggle with believing they are saved… or who struggle with believing that God loves them… or who struggle with their desires to do what they strongly, yet incorrectly, believe God has created them to do, which is to serve Satan… or fill-in-the-blank with whatever you struggle with.

So what then?

We repent and we keep submitting to the Father, keeping in mind verses such as 1 John 2:1 — “My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.”

So building on that point, here’s a couple more questions.

Questions:

As a Bible-believing Christian, should we make special allowances for those who are dissociative, and overlook… or not mention… or ignore… the sin that is so obviously keeping them in bondage? Worse, should we excuse the sin that is keeping them in bondage because they are struggling because of past trauma, or because they have a dissociative disorder?

Here’s the thing: sin puts us in bondage. It doesn’t matter if the sin is committed consciously or unconsciously; it doesn’t matter if we are forced, against our will, to commit the sin; it doesn’t matter if it was sin that we committed, or sin that was committed against us

Sin puts us in bondage.

Where many survivors of child abuse struggle (speaking from very personal experiences here, as well as from what I’ve seen and heard from other survivors who have stories similar to mine…) is the condemnation that is associated with that sin, and the emotions of condemnation that are engendered by being in, or by admitting that we are in, bondage.

Condemnation (from what I’ve experienced) often keeps us in a very unhealthy cycle that can actually keep us tied to the very sin that we abhor… that we are trying to get away from… that we are so horribly ashamed of… that we desperately want to be freed from… that we are trying to make up for by being as good as we can possibly be… that we are trying to ignore, hoping it’ll go away… that we are struggling with because we believe this is the only thing in life for us…. the only thing we deserve…

Condemnation keeps us in bondage by preventing us from doing the very thing that we need to do in order to find freedom from the bondage of sin: humble ourselves before the Father, confess the sin, and repent.

This is especially true when we were forced to commit those sins. It can feel as if by “confessing and repenting,” that we are admitting guilt that is not our own! Or taking on shame that that does not belong to us! Or it can feel as if the perpetrators are getting off the hook!

But this isn’t the case!

So please allow me to ease those ropes of condemnation that are tying you up:

Condemnation is counterproductive to your healing, so let it go.

And please read this section of the book I authored with Carolyn Hamlett: Finding Freedom: For the Dissociative Individual.

But until you get a chance to read that chapter in its entirety, I want to highlight a few things we wrote in that section concerning confession, repentance, and submission to God (which are some of the very basics of salvation and of continuing to live a Godly lifestyle).

Confession and Repentance

Confession and repentance is for your healing, not your condemnation!

Confession and repentance does not mean that you have to put yourself under ungodly and abusive authority.

Confessing and repenting does not mean that the people who forced you to do things against God are getting off the hook.

Confessing and repenting does not mean it was okay for people to force you into doing things against God.

Confessing and repenting does not mean that you are taking the blame and shouldering the responsibility for doing things that you had no choice but to do at that time, or were ignorant of.

Confessing and repenting does not mean you are under condemnation.

⇒  Confessing and repenting is for your healing, not your condemnation!

⇒  Confession and repentance breaks the power sin has over you, and frees you from bondage to Satan!

Submission to God

 Submission to the true God is for your healing.

The true God loves you and wants good for your life, and when you submit to Him, you are yielding to His plan for your life.

⇒  Submission to the true God is not submitting to abusive people or to an abusive false god.

But submission to the true God eliminates the power that fear has over you.

 Submission to the true God is for your healing.

So, it does not matter if the sin you have been tied up in the past is weighing you down… or if the sin you are currently tied up in is weighing you down … the solution is found in the Word of God, and it is the same for every one of us, whether or not we are dissociative: it begins with salvation through Jesus Christ, and it continues as we walk in obedience and submission to Him.

Obviously, this process can be more complicated for those of us who are dissociative, but rather than rewrite everything I’ve written, please read that chapter of our book that I previously suggested.

So now, let me ask those last questions again, but in a slightly different way.

Questions:

Should we make special allowances for those who are dissociative, and overlook… or not mention… or ignore… the sin that is so obviously keeping them in bondage?

Should we excuse the sin that is keeping them in bondage? Is that helpful to them? Is that healing for them?

Should we reason within ourselves (and with others) that, since they were forced into sinful practices as a child, then we should not kindly and lovingly point out those chains that still beset them, and tell them the good news of how to be set free?!

I know what I believe.

What do you believe?

Conclusion

If you and I ever interact in the future in any capacity whatsoever — Facebook, Twitter, email, comments on this blog, telephone call, video chat, face-to-face conversation — and if you begin sharing with me the theology that you believe in… or if I hear or read something that gives me pause or has me questioning something about what you said or wrote… I am likely to ask questions of you, asking for you to clarify your stated Christian beliefs.

(often I ask for Scripture, so I can study out the matter for myself)

I don’t do this to be offensive. I do this because, not only am I curious and wanting to know more about something that I perhaps may have missed in Scripture, but also because sometimes people say things that are a very clear and blatant indicator (a red-flag, so to speak) that they are likely involved in something that is not of God. Therefore, not only am I curious for myself about what Scriptural basis you may have for doing or believing what you stated, and not only am I curious as to understand where you are coming from, but out of care and love for your soul, I would also like to hopefully engender curiosity within you, to say within yourself: “What does God say about this? Let me go to His written Word to find out.”

Or…

If you and I ever interact in the future in any capacity whatsoever… and if I hear or read something from you that is clearly against Scripture … then I’m absolutely going to say something to you.

You see, I believe that Jesus Christ came so that we all might be set free, and as someone who cares for other people, and after having gone through what I’ve been through in life, and after having experienced being set free by the Father from the bondage and the weight that my sin and other people’s sins piled upon me…

(this is still a process, though, and I want to make this clear… because I’m certainly not completely healed yet!)

… then, in spite of the anxiety that I often feel when doing so, I am compelled to point it out when someone tells me they are engaged in or believe in something that is clearly not of God.

Jesus Christ can and will set you free, if you but ask; and His Spirit will work within you to bring to completion the salvation that was begun within you, if you yield to His work.

But your salvation isn’t a one-time thing and you’re done. That thought process isn’t based on a sound exegesis of Scripture! You must work out your salvation… you must continue walking in His steps… you must continue to yield to His Spirit… you must continue to line yourself up with God’s Word… you must continue to stay away from that which is of Satan, and cling to that which is of God… and when you fall into sin, you must confess your sin and repent, and turn back to the Father, Who is gracious to save you and to free you.

And all of this is possible because of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the grace of God, and the working of the Holy Spirit.

So, yes, if you tell me of something you are doing, or tell me of a belief that you have, that I know is something that will hinder you and bring you back into bondage of sin, then I’m going to bring it up to you in whatever way seems most appropriate given the circumstances (usually by leaving links to what I’ve already written on the subject… I find that is usually the least offensive way).

I do my best to bring it up in a kind way… but since none of us can always agree on what “feels kind” and what does not “feel kind,” I can only do my very best in this regard, and to apologize if I come across in a way that is not kind.

But I will tell you.

Why?

Not because I am assuming to know your thoughts or your heart… but because I believe that you deserve to be set free!

I believe that you deserve to not be under bondage to sin any longer, but to be servants of God.

I hope you feel the same about me.

Loren ❤


 

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.

Romans 6:17-19, 22

But thanks be to God that, though you once were slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were committed. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to escalating wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness.

But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the fruit you reap leads to holiness, and the outcome is eternal life.

1 Peter 2:16

Live in freedom, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God.

(emphasis mine)

1 Peter 2_16


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7 comments

  1. That is one of the most thorough explanations about salvation and the dilemma of being dissociative that I have ever read! God bless you and continued healing!

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  2. Loren. Words do fail me, but my heart wants to speak! Your tho’ts, your process, your journey, your heart for God, your insight thro’ all of the complexities, your persevering pursuit of truth, and determination, to know God and know yourself, your passion and compassion to pass on to others what you’ve struggled thro’ to gain understanding of, to apprehend the Lord’s perspective; this all swells my heart for compassion for you. (I trust this is taken appropriately!)

    My own past pain, searching, so many questions, and fear in confusion, not wanting to be deceived, wanting to know the truth, allows me to identify even just a little, with your journey Loren. It excites me to see your soundness of mind, in the pursuit of truth, in the pursuit of God, in the midst of continuing complexities. It’s only God’s Word that dispels all lies. The enemy will try many angles to mess us up! Your testimony encourages me to continue in prayer for you and your journey in the Lord.

    The insights you and Carolyn have been sharing are and will continue to help lead many others out deception into the light of God and His glorious truth. I know, there are many things that we have to rec’ from the Lord Himself, as He teaches us, and I’m blessed to see that transpiring in your life and journey. I’m cheering you on Loren. For many of us, like yourself, all we have is the Word of God, and His Holy Spirit, and a few trusted friends! As long as we desire the truth, and continue to pursue the Lord, and His Word, and stay humbly submitted to Him and His Word, open to His correction, He will continue to lead us into all truth.

    My heart has spoken, still words are not enough, to express what I feel. His Word is a light unto your path, and a lamp unto your feet. “Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of His glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen” Jude 1:24-25

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    • Thank you!!! You’ve brought me to tears! 😭

      I appreciate your words so much! They are encouraging and a blessing to me beyond what I’m able to put into words. ❤️

      I also appreciate your blog and that you strive to shed light on the deceptions of the enemy who has so deeply infiltrated Christian society. Thank you for the work that you do for Christ. I look forward to meeting you and your wife one day in heaven… And I know my own husband would say the same! 😊

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  3. God bless you, Loren.

    I think you might appreciate this observation from [name redacted – please review the comment policy of this website], Hebrew Bible scholar. Here’s a link:

    [link redacted – please review the comment policy of this website]

    In one discussion I heard from [name redacted] he talked about the story of David in 1 Samuel 23 where he was running from Saul after he (David) and his men had saved the city of Keilah from the Philistines. (Mind you, God told David that he should go there, so he was doing God’s will)

    He caught wind that Saul knew he was in the city and was planning to trap him and his men there. He inquired of the Lord if this would happen and God confirmed that yes, Saul would come to the city and the men of the city would give them up.

    So David and his men left town! 😉

    Prime example that Foreknowledge is NOT the same as Predestination. The Calvinists have it wrong, I’m afraid. 😉

    The mere fact that this is a concern for you, in my book, is confirmation that you have been saved. 😉

    Hope this help.

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    • Hi Anita, thank you for reminding us of that Bible story. 🙂 I could take the same Scripture, however, and argue just the opposite point, but I won’t because I don’t want to come across as being rude or argumentative. Lol 😅

      Thank you, as always, for sharing your thoughts. ❤️ 😊

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